1 00:00:05,390 --> 00:00:03,340 alright we're going to continue our 2 00:00:08,330 --> 00:00:05,400 morning session on non local 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:08,340 connectivity our first speaker will be 4 00:00:16,129 --> 00:00:11,250 John Alexander it's going to tell us the 5 00:00:17,870 --> 00:00:16,139 real story of goats John and then it was 6 00:00:20,029 --> 00:00:17,880 supposed to start with an apology by 7 00:00:22,580 --> 00:00:20,039 there when I moved nom Anor an unrated 8 00:00:25,670 --> 00:00:22,590 this talk I made an assumption that a 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:25,680 bus soil that involved in a movie with 10 00:00:30,890 --> 00:00:27,810 George clearly there was based primarily 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:30,900 on psychic phenomena would be going on 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:32,489 in the audience and I didn't find out 13 00:00:35,780 --> 00:00:33,930 until I got to the culture merely 14 00:00:40,639 --> 00:00:35,790 thought this is where people don't even 15 00:00:46,010 --> 00:00:40,649 know what it is so we are alone I might 16 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:46,020 not have been that otherwise the this is 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:50,730 bet based on a book by John Watson on a 18 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:53,850 proposed and I said a five percent 19 00:01:00,410 --> 00:00:56,010 factor where he talked about this much 20 00:01:02,450 --> 00:01:00,420 truth and wrote this much and I say the 21 00:01:05,119 --> 00:01:02,460 characters are unambiguous in this I've 22 00:01:08,270 --> 00:01:05,129 Anatole displacer I mentioned by name 23 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:08,280 and so it is really clear we learn how 24 00:01:14,170 --> 00:01:10,770 to extract that now in the movie well 25 00:01:16,940 --> 00:01:14,180 there is quite a bit of extrapolation 26 00:01:19,249 --> 00:01:16,950 here the vivid claims that are really 27 00:01:21,380 --> 00:01:19,259 kind of interested me to go through as 28 00:01:23,810 --> 00:01:21,390 many of these as we can get through but 29 00:01:26,179 --> 00:01:23,820 these are things that their state of de 30 00:01:28,340 --> 00:01:26,189 happened I understand this was done as a 31 00:01:33,069 --> 00:01:28,350 comedy when you thought was so the kind 32 00:01:35,300 --> 00:01:33,079 of the intent on it so we started 33 00:01:38,149 --> 00:01:35,310 unfortunately he destroyed were the most 34 00:01:38,930 --> 00:01:38,159 romantic thing which was that you see 35 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:38,940 George clearly 36 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:41,850 yes is going beasters with the boat will 37 00:01:49,430 --> 00:01:45,810 intently and also the logo and the dice 38 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:49,440 and in the milk that story exists 39 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:53,610 unfortunately it's not true well the 40 00:01:58,730 --> 00:01:55,890 story which is published on the net to 41 00:02:02,060 --> 00:01:58,740 define says that this happened one 42 00:02:03,980 --> 00:02:02,070 winter morning at Fort Bragg that this 43 00:02:07,580 --> 00:02:03,990 guy better make a chalice who's a real 44 00:02:10,580 --> 00:02:07,590 martial artist was involved in it took 45 00:02:12,950 --> 00:02:10,590 personal bear pit now there's a temple 46 00:02:15,500 --> 00:02:12,960 problem with them to explain because 47 00:02:19,820 --> 00:02:15,510 this must have happened even the reader 48 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:19,830 and 70 74 76 who's really don't get too 49 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:22,050 so the other explain how that happened 50 00:02:29,180 --> 00:02:25,010 so he said introductions were made by 51 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:29,190 koto GA who's runner is going to bob 52 00:02:35,750 --> 00:02:32,490 marshall or normal short o cuando to the 53 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:35,760 united states ah and then ask for 54 00:02:47,270 --> 00:02:45,170 make a chalice is a real guy now he was 55 00:02:49,100 --> 00:02:47,280 so psychic that he got on a helicopter 56 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:49,110 who became emotionally got on a 57 00:02:58,460 --> 00:02:51,450 helicopter and nicaragua had a bomb on 58 00:03:00,650 --> 00:02:58,470 it and died so that but his death gives 59 00:03:02,900 --> 00:03:00,660 us say you know kind of a reference 60 00:03:05,540 --> 00:03:02,910 point on earth and violet or probably 61 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:05,550 didn't happen with the person didn't 62 00:03:12,100 --> 00:03:08,970 know I guess is that there's a Philip in 63 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:12,110 the guy in the middle here is my cousin 64 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:15,690 Lucy on meaning attempt on back belt 65 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:17,850 what does that leave well they're the 66 00:03:20,380 --> 00:03:18,650 guys in 67 00:03:23,890 --> 00:03:20,390 where did that little martial arts are 68 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:23,900 taking all his playmates me yeah this is 69 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:26,810 a real service top and lasso turns out 70 00:03:33,399 --> 00:03:30,890 we know Julie so I called him and asked 71 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:33,409 him about the events did not wear the 72 00:03:39,610 --> 00:03:36,650 principles involved was not a colonel he 73 00:03:41,860 --> 00:03:39,620 came the United States in his late 20s 74 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:41,870 you had been a lieutenant was not weird 75 00:03:49,449 --> 00:03:43,930 they're Koreans who I did not know a 76 00:03:51,339 --> 00:03:49,459 chalice okay so if we say they didn't 77 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:51,349 have it did happen because there is some 78 00:03:56,259 --> 00:03:53,690 very spectacular sorts of things that 79 00:03:59,050 --> 00:03:56,269 did happen and I will talk about and 80 00:04:00,460 --> 00:03:59,060 maybe law is crazy mobile sa is a comedy 81 00:04:04,420 --> 00:04:00,470 and the makes us look like we were 82 00:04:07,059 --> 00:04:04,430 really crazy first of all yes the US was 83 00:04:08,979 --> 00:04:07,069 concerned about what the soil Soviet 84 00:04:11,619 --> 00:04:08,989 Union is there if you look and maybe 85 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:11,629 you'll actually see them reading this 86 00:04:19,509 --> 00:04:15,290 book which was very popular in the late 87 00:04:21,099 --> 00:04:19,519 70s now there is a goat lamb there's a 88 00:04:23,589 --> 00:04:21,109 really good lab it's our third by the 89 00:04:25,810 --> 00:04:23,599 Special Forces Warfare group and the 90 00:04:27,610 --> 00:04:25,820 purpose of the boat lab is yes they are 91 00:04:29,980 --> 00:04:27,620 not the size goats they ship them and 92 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:29,990 the idea is in trained medics or the 93 00:04:34,860 --> 00:04:31,610 first time where they don't see a 94 00:04:37,899 --> 00:04:34,870 gunshot wound is not on the battlefield 95 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:37,909 unfortunately a pedal does not elect all 96 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:40,010 three Goodweather hard as she treasures 97 00:04:46,149 --> 00:04:42,770 or something but maybe in a practical 98 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:46,159 application get lab is really and some 99 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:48,530 interesting things happened there why 100 00:04:54,790 --> 00:04:52,210 why stirred goat it did Stuart goat 101 00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:54,800 where the hell is this guy this is rick 102 00:05:00,730 --> 00:04:58,250 roll in the nineteen sixty three here 103 00:05:03,700 --> 00:05:00,740 and two other people were captured in 104 00:05:08,050 --> 00:05:03,710 south vietnam and he was a prisoner 105 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:08,060 until late december in 1968 in order a 106 00:05:11,890 --> 00:05:10,010 few days before they have decided to 107 00:05:14,159 --> 00:05:11,900 execute him because we got tired of his 108 00:05:17,999 --> 00:05:14,169 ethics and we're away 109 00:05:21,719 --> 00:05:18,009 he escaped so he got out of the military 110 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:21,729 for a while and better he was only 111 00:05:27,629 --> 00:05:25,090 relative 34 POWs too if we escaped 112 00:05:30,029 --> 00:05:27,639 during that entire conflict but they 113 00:05:32,309 --> 00:05:30,039 only decided to pay up in the chorus 114 00:05:35,429 --> 00:05:32,319 concert which is a survival evasion 115 00:05:37,769 --> 00:05:35,439 resistance and escape and we'll do this 116 00:05:41,399 --> 00:05:37,779 for people who are at high risk of being 117 00:05:44,399 --> 00:05:41,409 captured or intern so it better to win 118 00:05:47,399 --> 00:05:44,409 of course then somebody who's got five 119 00:05:52,350 --> 00:05:47,409 years or experience now the US are some 120 00:05:54,749 --> 00:05:52,360 dates on him because unfortunately in 20 121 00:05:59,159 --> 00:05:54,759 on april nineteen eighty nine he was 122 00:06:03,269 --> 00:05:59,169 assassinated really well near manila in 123 00:06:05,129 --> 00:06:03,279 the philippines but he is really that 124 00:06:06,749 --> 00:06:05,139 interested in this area many other 125 00:06:08,489 --> 00:06:06,759 things did you see in the movies you got 126 00:06:12,570 --> 00:06:08,499 round i was going to jump off of your 127 00:06:15,869 --> 00:06:12,580 pass and all that not happening ok this 128 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:15,879 is what real prw may have seen rescued 129 00:06:21,389 --> 00:06:19,210 on this is base on unreal but this is 130 00:06:25,139 --> 00:06:21,399 what bo buddies look like when they come 131 00:06:29,459 --> 00:06:25,149 out so you've got full health you 132 00:06:34,850 --> 00:06:29,469 probably been beaten diseases is quite 133 00:06:41,159 --> 00:06:37,889 never had was what kinds of things can 134 00:06:43,769 --> 00:06:41,169 we do all day racing but i had five 135 00:06:46,829 --> 00:06:43,779 years practical experience in the jungle 136 00:06:48,989 --> 00:06:46,839 sir what can you do to influence people 137 00:06:50,700 --> 00:06:48,999 who is not going to save a great deal of 138 00:06:53,399 --> 00:06:50,710 physical energy because you just not 139 00:06:55,820 --> 00:06:53,409 going to have that but it does come you 140 00:06:58,529 --> 00:06:55,830 love experiments have been done on story 141 00:07:01,499 --> 00:06:58,539 does it make sense to try and have a 142 00:07:04,559 --> 00:07:01,509 guard look in a specific direction for a 143 00:07:06,540 --> 00:07:04,569 bit longer who's also Faison how do you 144 00:07:09,899 --> 00:07:06,550 move your hands how can I do make 145 00:07:13,230 --> 00:07:09,909 movements their affinity safe that can 146 00:07:14,460 --> 00:07:13,240 suddenly be turned into an attack he 147 00:07:17,580 --> 00:07:14,470 also had hold 148 00:07:20,100 --> 00:07:17,590 did Mac which was the death touch so he 149 00:07:26,010 --> 00:07:20,110 said so that the reserve shiraz outside 150 00:07:30,650 --> 00:07:26,020 is this real yeah they far came to is 151 00:07:33,150 --> 00:07:30,660 this guy this is guy savelli rather 152 00:07:35,940 --> 00:07:33,160 unique sure you say martial artists 153 00:07:38,970 --> 00:07:35,950 they've trained really met with him but 154 00:07:42,780 --> 00:07:38,980 he is the one who actually taught people 155 00:07:45,300 --> 00:07:42,790 how to do dim mak now these guys these 156 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:45,310 are NCOs they choose not to be more 157 00:07:50,250 --> 00:07:46,810 mailmen you know who the what their 158 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:50,260 identity are they now retired but we are 159 00:07:54,990 --> 00:07:52,450 actively involved in training with him 160 00:07:58,260 --> 00:07:55,000 some very unique circumstances very easy 161 00:08:00,810 --> 00:07:58,270 did know or make a chalice and no you 162 00:08:05,310 --> 00:08:00,820 didn't get involved in restoring aspects 163 00:08:07,860 --> 00:08:05,320 of it sure there's dim mak highly 164 00:08:10,430 --> 00:08:07,870 controversial as i said there's known as 165 00:08:14,250 --> 00:08:10,440 the death touch and the idea here is 166 00:08:16,409 --> 00:08:14,260 like a this is from bloodsport it is not 167 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:16,419 a hard physical bleh we were going to 168 00:08:21,540 --> 00:08:19,330 you know stop the head it's like what 169 00:08:25,050 --> 00:08:21,550 you do is any update with their of key 170 00:08:28,590 --> 00:08:25,060 or cheat death occurs at some later 171 00:08:31,830 --> 00:08:28,600 point in time this may be up to maybe 172 00:08:33,659 --> 00:08:31,840 you had 24 hours later now it's 173 00:08:36,089 --> 00:08:33,669 interesting i pity here the principles 174 00:08:39,510 --> 00:08:36,099 for those who attended the meeting in 175 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:39,520 san diego we had some interest in 176 00:08:46,260 --> 00:08:42,250 japanese research and looking at remote 177 00:08:48,329 --> 00:08:46,270 applications of g and key and that's 178 00:08:51,780 --> 00:08:48,339 basically what we were talking about 179 00:08:54,180 --> 00:08:51,790 here so what happened on the goats and 180 00:08:56,070 --> 00:08:54,190 to the little controversy over he 181 00:08:58,860 --> 00:08:56,080 actually had to go whether it was guys 182 00:08:59,790 --> 00:08:58,870 to valerie one of the NLCS but the 183 00:09:02,730 --> 00:08:59,800 weather it is a 184 00:09:05,009 --> 00:09:02,740 today so it was kept in for the cameras 185 00:09:10,410 --> 00:09:05,019 he had time-lapse photography on it and 186 00:09:13,889 --> 00:09:10,420 about oops about 18 hours later the dope 187 00:09:16,019 --> 00:09:13,899 goes book then flips so quickly now they 188 00:09:17,610 --> 00:09:16,029 did it knock necropsy on and I've seen 189 00:09:19,860 --> 00:09:17,620 the results on that they still won't 190 00:09:22,050 --> 00:09:19,870 release to an individual's holder they 191 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:22,060 said death was so fast at the time that 192 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:24,370 it did occur that the help didn't even 193 00:09:30,420 --> 00:09:27,250 contract who is most amazing to me is 194 00:09:32,759 --> 00:09:30,430 the nice are these pictures we solve for 195 00:09:35,009 --> 00:09:32,769 anybody in the scene billets one 196 00:09:37,139 --> 00:09:35,019 cadavers what happens you have high 197 00:09:39,030 --> 00:09:37,149 velocity or missile that goes through 198 00:09:42,300 --> 00:09:39,040 the body you can see that the image 199 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:42,310 deposition took took place in which you 200 00:09:47,460 --> 00:09:45,370 saw in the goats was that kind of energy 201 00:09:51,060 --> 00:09:47,470 depletion saw line going right across 202 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:51,070 the thoracic reason the problem is there 203 00:09:56,990 --> 00:09:52,810 was no rear ended entrance or real 204 00:10:01,019 --> 00:09:57,000 addiction so it was really quite 205 00:10:04,650 --> 00:10:01,029 dramatic hiya drivers come now here is 206 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:04,660 something called Delta Force and the 207 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:06,970 mission of Delta is basically a think 208 00:10:11,430 --> 00:10:09,610 tank that was allowed to go out and be 209 00:10:14,190 --> 00:10:11,440 really wild i mean we could look at 210 00:10:15,449 --> 00:10:14,200 basically anything the model is what's 211 00:10:17,550 --> 00:10:15,459 the difference it makes a difference 212 00:10:20,130 --> 00:10:17,560 really key literally a transforming the 213 00:10:23,220 --> 00:10:20,140 artery at this point nobody just coming 214 00:10:26,340 --> 00:10:23,230 out of Vietnam the only reserve in the 215 00:10:29,519 --> 00:10:26,350 bedroom is that at best and so they they 216 00:10:31,010 --> 00:10:29,529 looked at how you cept need change keep 217 00:10:34,199 --> 00:10:31,020 track of time lessons of history 218 00:10:36,990 --> 00:10:34,209 realities and visions of the future now 219 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:37,000 also mentioned this is not Delta with 220 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:39,610 the ritual is Delta Force so that was 221 00:10:44,009 --> 00:10:42,490 created by a trailer buck with would you 222 00:10:46,769 --> 00:10:44,019 rather and I 223 00:10:48,929 --> 00:10:46,779 women so major course together much long 224 00:10:50,669 --> 00:10:48,939 before that so these are not the door 225 00:10:53,609 --> 00:10:50,679 kickers these were people who got 226 00:10:56,009 --> 00:10:53,619 together and fought but I our 227 00:10:58,259 --> 00:10:56,019 organizational chart we have written a 228 00:11:00,179 --> 00:10:58,269 comes out John nit of the slaves 229 00:11:02,150 --> 00:11:00,189 guerrilla management number of years 230 00:11:05,999 --> 00:11:02,160 later on solvers on the chart with 231 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:06,009 concentric news and they were like who 232 00:11:10,619 --> 00:11:07,689 did this kind of thinking for a 233 00:11:12,239 --> 00:11:10,629 management perspective and one and the 234 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:12,249 name should recognize that they're guys 235 00:11:19,379 --> 00:11:14,410 that called Paul some of the others 236 00:11:21,359 --> 00:11:19,389 related one oddity of amazing things now 237 00:11:24,239 --> 00:11:21,369 in the baby you have something called 238 00:11:27,329 --> 00:11:24,249 the new earth army this was actually 239 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:27,339 taken from the first Earth battalion and 240 00:11:33,269 --> 00:11:29,170 this is the real thing some people 241 00:11:35,129 --> 00:11:33,279 emerge into channel it to him on that he 242 00:11:37,889 --> 00:11:35,139 designed this module which was now 243 00:11:40,379 --> 00:11:37,899 available on the net for imminent the 244 00:11:43,049 --> 00:11:40,389 main thing is this was not a real human 245 00:11:46,169 --> 00:11:43,059 he couldn't go on the organizational 246 00:11:48,929 --> 00:11:46,179 chart and find the first Earth battalion 247 00:11:51,900 --> 00:11:48,939 listed some place but it was a national 248 00:11:54,780 --> 00:11:51,910 thing and it was real this is the 249 00:11:57,239 --> 00:11:54,790 invasion of the new era that may 250 00:12:01,129 --> 00:11:57,249 recognize it artwork is really pretty 251 00:12:03,509 --> 00:12:01,139 important in the building Jeff Bridges 252 00:12:05,789 --> 00:12:03,519 unfortunately return here is he's got a 253 00:12:08,039 --> 00:12:05,799 ponytail it was about this long down the 254 00:12:10,859 --> 00:12:08,049 back in the lab but that didn't happen 255 00:12:13,700 --> 00:12:10,869 but it is playing of this guy this is 256 00:12:17,420 --> 00:12:13,710 our Jim Channon whoever William 257 00:12:20,570 --> 00:12:17,430 well imagineer Jim is best known for his 258 00:12:22,700 --> 00:12:20,580 artwork in fact some of this symbology 259 00:12:25,190 --> 00:12:22,710 and still you know basic symbols that 260 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:25,200 have used in the military together but 261 00:12:31,030 --> 00:12:28,170 he was CEO three or four segments beyond 262 00:12:35,570 --> 00:12:31,040 the corridor with alarming most 263 00:12:39,590 --> 00:12:35,580 certainly at that time he works till in 264 00:12:41,420 --> 00:12:39,600 credit ethology and what is the key was 265 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:41,430 dare to think the unthinkable what the 266 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:43,770 first Earth battalion did was emotional 267 00:12:49,190 --> 00:12:46,890 unit was allowed us to be a lot of the 268 00:12:51,730 --> 00:12:49,200 usual thinking in razor we're not 269 00:12:55,190 --> 00:12:51,740 threatening to the conventional force 270 00:12:58,130 --> 00:12:55,200 that's really which symbology is kind of 271 00:13:00,020 --> 00:12:58,140 interesting in gym so handbook I might 272 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:00,030 mention that you'll notice there's a 273 00:13:05,390 --> 00:13:02,970 black and white be the desire isn't 274 00:13:07,330 --> 00:13:05,400 quite complete that's intentional that's 275 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:07,340 so that the people who are working 276 00:13:12,890 --> 00:13:09,810 everything are you looking at this you 277 00:13:16,010 --> 00:13:12,900 mind fills in the blanks well this Allah 278 00:13:18,410 --> 00:13:16,020 movie is the actual depiction of you 279 00:13:21,170 --> 00:13:18,420 know clearly coming out with the goat so 280 00:13:23,950 --> 00:13:21,180 what these are symbology of God's an 281 00:13:27,290 --> 00:13:23,960 action this is our Toby of last year in 282 00:13:28,940 --> 00:13:27,300 Afghanistan and what they're doing is 283 00:13:31,190 --> 00:13:28,950 they've gone to a village you know 284 00:13:33,830 --> 00:13:31,200 collateral casualties are a problem and 285 00:13:36,590 --> 00:13:33,840 we've stepped in to be the family and 286 00:13:39,380 --> 00:13:36,600 make amends for killing a couple of kids 287 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:39,390 that have been the motive to kill and 288 00:13:46,130 --> 00:13:42,290 literally are taking the great end as 289 00:13:48,470 --> 00:13:46,140 and others well received by the way now 290 00:13:51,700 --> 00:13:48,480 in the maybe if you even saw the trailer 291 00:13:54,460 --> 00:13:51,710 as you see where general hopgood here 292 00:13:56,970 --> 00:13:54,470 whether you smoke there 293 00:13:59,740 --> 00:13:56,980 getting knocked unconscious and whatnot 294 00:14:04,930 --> 00:13:59,750 the guy authority is taking it was my 295 00:14:06,580 --> 00:14:04,940 ex-boss general bit stubborn unless I 296 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:06,590 upgrade us and when I would become the 297 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:11,090 villain in bed alone in avatar I argue 298 00:14:16,150 --> 00:14:13,850 this likely didn't happen to some people 299 00:14:18,610 --> 00:14:16,160 who they could no have we did talk about 300 00:14:21,820 --> 00:14:18,620 the potential of any penetrability of 301 00:14:24,100 --> 00:14:21,830 matter but probably did not happen and 302 00:14:27,580 --> 00:14:24,110 certainly not you know the ridiculous 303 00:14:29,860 --> 00:14:27,590 ray anthony b makes up in the baby you 304 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:29,870 see George George driving down the road 305 00:14:36,790 --> 00:14:33,250 since 30 days as busting clouds on 306 00:14:40,210 --> 00:14:36,800 highly controversial yep we are we did 307 00:14:43,750 --> 00:14:40,220 back in the same it we may be again you 308 00:14:47,170 --> 00:14:43,760 see where he walks into the room you 309 00:14:49,540 --> 00:14:47,180 know as it says the 50 years or stills 310 00:14:53,940 --> 00:14:49,550 I've reached in and taken off the movie 311 00:14:57,610 --> 00:14:53,950 itself and out of the computers crash 312 00:15:01,770 --> 00:14:57,620 yep that that really did happen the guy 313 00:15:04,270 --> 00:15:01,780 who did it Rosalynn Buchanan remember me 314 00:15:06,370 --> 00:15:04,280 reviewing circles in fact you know that 315 00:15:09,790 --> 00:15:06,380 what happened is she was at the augsburg 316 00:15:12,070 --> 00:15:09,800 germany and spent a lot of time setting 317 00:15:14,170 --> 00:15:12,080 up a computer program they were supposed 318 00:15:16,690 --> 00:15:14,180 to have a big show them tell ya and 319 00:15:18,660 --> 00:15:16,700 everything except to go had left it 320 00:15:20,730 --> 00:15:18,670 comes back in the next morning 321 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:20,740 somebody tweaked any of this is what do 322 00:15:26,970 --> 00:15:23,650 you do is I'm just tweaking it and what 323 00:15:33,050 --> 00:15:26,980 now and yeah he just reserved not buying 324 00:15:35,220 --> 00:15:33,060 the entire system crashed remote very 325 00:15:38,010 --> 00:15:35,230 obviously you know about that was 326 00:15:40,980 --> 00:15:38,020 Stargate program we've got of course 327 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:40,990 ceramic model is formed the very people 328 00:15:47,610 --> 00:15:45,250 here Paul endale Beth will certainly 329 00:15:50,250 --> 00:15:47,620 associated with the program firewalking 330 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:50,260 yep we did that word from Jack talking 331 00:15:57,690 --> 00:15:54,370 about the the response on that lady fast 332 00:15:59,340 --> 00:15:57,700 does not answer that question in the 333 00:16:03,210 --> 00:15:59,350 baby in the world of this and themselves 334 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:03,220 are given LSD this is supposed to take 335 00:16:09,150 --> 00:16:05,890 place in the tooth out of the desert 336 00:16:12,870 --> 00:16:09,160 storm here are so not only no but hell 337 00:16:14,870 --> 00:16:12,880 no by the seventies they are after we 338 00:16:17,630 --> 00:16:14,880 see their investigations that come out 339 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:17,640 this would have been rated G of stuff 340 00:16:23,630 --> 00:16:21,370 and absolutely do not and some fictional 341 00:16:28,860 --> 00:16:23,640 player did include it in the movies 342 00:16:31,410 --> 00:16:28,870 metalbending baby spacey sitting right 343 00:16:34,050 --> 00:16:31,420 over here how's this and to see how 344 00:16:36,420 --> 00:16:34,060 could say edit and that of course we all 345 00:16:40,170 --> 00:16:36,430 the hill yeah this is something that 346 00:16:42,660 --> 00:16:40,180 really is real not only if the weapon is 347 00:16:45,510 --> 00:16:42,670 one of my main fear of whole host of all 348 00:16:47,700 --> 00:16:45,520 sorts of frames the positive attributes 349 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:47,710 of goatse whistles from Jenny Jelen 350 00:16:52,620 --> 00:16:49,690 where he points out is we've also had 351 00:16:54,900 --> 00:16:52,630 the court jester the court jester paid 352 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:54,910 an important villain ideas he could try 353 00:17:00,930 --> 00:16:57,490 things and made things safe so the point 354 00:17:03,630 --> 00:17:00,940 was that he's in here and confusion you 355 00:17:06,450 --> 00:17:03,640 can interject or good ideas or new ideas 356 00:17:08,790 --> 00:17:06,460 in a safe environment whereas if you 357 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:08,800 apply them just those you know here's a 358 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:13,210 are they can be terminal so look what 359 00:17:17,370 --> 00:17:15,010 did this look like his and stare at 360 00:17:19,650 --> 00:17:17,380 goats nope didn't do that with a kill 361 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:19,660 goats yup we did that we do they stare 362 00:17:23,490 --> 00:17:21,250 at goats yes they did some other 363 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:23,500 stirring experience again trying to 364 00:17:27,420 --> 00:17:24,970 cause them to move one way or another 365 00:17:31,860 --> 00:17:27,430 you know what's the influence of staring 366 00:17:34,050 --> 00:17:31,870 on people we was concerned about sign 367 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:34,060 research obviously had a remote viewing 368 00:17:40,110 --> 00:17:37,810 program metal band aid about computer 369 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:40,120 caution got helping cloudbuster I'll put 370 00:17:44,460 --> 00:17:41,650 that and a possible got some interesting 371 00:17:47,460 --> 00:17:44,470 results we didn't need the scientific 372 00:17:51,330 --> 00:17:47,470 Virginia they sheath battalion is really 373 00:17:54,030 --> 00:17:51,340 a falcon yet we did that go through laws 374 00:17:59,400 --> 00:17:54,040 nope didn't do that non-lethal weapons 375 00:18:02,910 --> 00:17:59,410 of course evolved and LSD not about to 376 00:18:04,830 --> 00:18:02,920 venture into that minefield ah I should 377 00:18:07,620 --> 00:18:04,840 have warned people in case I did love 378 00:18:09,270 --> 00:18:07,630 the ending of the movie because at the 379 00:18:12,030 --> 00:18:09,280 end the guy who's playing John ransom 380 00:18:13,770 --> 00:18:12,040 jumps up and literally does run through 381 00:18:15,300 --> 00:18:13,780 the wall so as a spoiler but has been 382 00:18:20,820 --> 00:18:15,310 out long enough if you haven't seen it 383 00:18:23,250 --> 00:18:20,830 so I sort of did leave it there and I'm 384 00:18:26,010 --> 00:18:23,260 I think that's it and as one more 385 00:18:28,710 --> 00:18:26,020 admission when I'm two years ago I gave 386 00:18:30,750 --> 00:18:28,720 a talk on UFOs and we've got a book 387 00:18:35,390 --> 00:18:30,760 that's coming out februari with mixture 388 00:18:43,750 --> 00:18:35,400 on that so we actually have to limit so 389 00:18:54,350 --> 00:18:46,070 okay we have two minutes for questions 390 00:18:56,690 --> 00:18:54,360 now we have two minutes most of these 391 00:19:00,020 --> 00:18:56,700 effects that you described I would 392 00:19:04,580 --> 00:19:00,030 categorize as somewhat negative high 393 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:04,590 entropy harmful are many examples that 394 00:19:10,700 --> 00:19:07,530 you know off that we're uplifting well 395 00:19:13,130 --> 00:19:10,710 my point was that the hell they were the 396 00:19:15,770 --> 00:19:13,140 POWs well that is the thing that 397 00:19:17,690 --> 00:19:15,780 precipitated it it was how do you train 398 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:17,700 people are going to be in a very you 399 00:19:24,470 --> 00:19:20,970 know tough environment to be able to 400 00:19:26,270 --> 00:19:24,480 influence that environment and I would 401 00:19:28,130 --> 00:19:26,280 argue about whether they're crazy by the 402 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:28,140 way the Navy portrayed everything it was 403 00:19:35,330 --> 00:19:31,050 highly negative and you know everything 404 00:19:38,300 --> 00:19:35,340 was done for a loss factor yes John does 405 00:19:43,250 --> 00:19:38,310 the on this the Delta Force think tank 406 00:19:46,100 --> 00:19:43,260 or similar organizations still exists or 407 00:19:47,630 --> 00:19:46,110 if it does exist or does not are others 408 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:47,640 what are some of the other thing takes 409 00:19:57,380 --> 00:19:54,570 like the Delta Force there's never been 410 00:20:02,030 --> 00:19:57,390 anything quite as organized as Delta was 411 00:20:04,010 --> 00:20:02,040 at the time as far as I get questions 412 00:20:06,310 --> 00:20:04,020 all the time while raising a secret 413 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:06,320 remote viewing program my answer is no 414 00:20:11,810 --> 00:20:09,690 because it was highly organized it was 415 00:20:14,060 --> 00:20:11,820 ready to put information in how to live 416 00:20:15,980 --> 00:20:14,070 uated how to transmit it that does not 417 00:20:17,270 --> 00:20:15,990 mean that there aren't individuals and 418 00:20:20,210 --> 00:20:17,280 some of them here who don't get 419 00:20:22,250 --> 00:20:20,220 individual questions about you know 420 00:20:27,470 --> 00:20:22,260 specific targets and things like that 421 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:27,480 but no such organizations I'll tell you 422 00:20:33,470 --> 00:20:30,410 I do you work with the military a lot